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([personal profile] freyakitten Aug. 11th, 2004 09:59 am)
I am now an under-25 champion at bridge. *do the dance of victory* According to the captains of opposing teams, I played brilliantly all week. One of these captains was severely miffed during the Victory Dinner that I had my name on yet another trophy that he didn't... Said trophy has typos that have not been fixed yet. I particularly like the matching teams for 2001 on the winners and runners-up trophy. Apparently the same six players got both titles.

Next job is to make the people doing the engraving on the honours boards at my local bridge club to put a 'Miss' in front of my name this time, instead of a 'Ms' which is not accurate. And while they're at it, can they modify the other instances?
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From: [identity profile] reynardo.livejournal.com


Wow! Go you! You've been working for that long enough, so well done and congrats for something you totally and utterly deserve!

From: [identity profile] freyaw.livejournal.com


And I have two more years in the under-25s too, due to the rules! You are eligible until the year that you are 26 on the 1/1.

I think that this was the last year that the trophy we won will be used as there is only one more space for an engraving shield to be affixed - and that's us. So next year, we'll be doing our best to be the first on a new trophy...

From: [identity profile] penguin2.livejournal.com


I'm Ms-tified! How can "Ms" be "not accurate"? Um, unless you're a bloke? :P

All Ms means is "female" - it's a general term that includes both Miss and Mrs...





From: [identity profile] freyaw.livejournal.com


Because I'm very definitely a 'Miss'. It is the title I prefer. I wish there to be no confusion or Ms-titling. And the only titles used on the honour boards seem to be 'Mr', 'Mrs', 'Ms', and 'Dr'. Except when they're plural, in which case it is 'Messieurs', 'Messrs' and 'Mesdames'. So I'm insisting on being me and different. It seems that back when 'Miss' would have been used as a matter of course, single women did not play bridge, so there is no precedent.

I have asked in previous years for 'Miss' to be used, but somehow between me saying it, and the engraver engraving it, it gets changed. For some reason, the committee seems to think I would prefer 'Ms' despite what I've told them.

It's also that I'm very stubborn. Very very stubborn. Pig-headed. Obstinate. Mulish.

From: [identity profile] feodora.livejournal.com

MISS contra MS



I germany no one would ask for the equivalent of Miss (Fräulein) because it has the negative attitude of either not to be a grown up or be a unmarried (and virgin) female or both.

From: [identity profile] freyaw.livejournal.com

Re: MISS contra MS


I am an unmarried female, and I have no intentions of getting married. The only people who want to see me married are my family and my married friends. The rest either agree with me that I'm not mature enough yet to handle it, or prefer to let me decide without pushing.

What are the alternative titles for an unmarried female in Germany?

From: [identity profile] penguin2.livejournal.com


Fair enough :-)

I just find it amusing after all the fighting the 1960s feminists did on behalf of making "Ms" a legitimate usage.

I've been married several times, and it never had anything to do with Lurve (although coincidentally I was, and largely remain, madly in love with those wot I married) - it was strictly a tax dodge and a way to give two fingers to The System. Having spent my life as a travelling rock minstrel, I've always found the Mrs appellation to be a wonderfully useful Clark Kent suit. There I am, outlaw and liver-in-the-cracks and stainless steel rodent, but as soon as I announce myself as Mrs Somebodyorother I gain this demure unthreatening cachet in the eyes of the Grey Men...



From: [identity profile] freyaw.livejournal.com


My SO and I count as de-facto for the tax dodge business. I forget when the tax laws started to include de-facto as well as by-law marriages. Probably in the 1997 'rewriting' of the laws (if they rewrote the lot, then why are we still using portions of the 1936 Tax Act?)

And I probably wouldn't be this militant about wanting 'Miss' not 'Ms' if, when I ask, 'Miss' is consistently used. The only organisations that get it right have asked me to fill out forms that have included 'Miss' as an option for my title.

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The tax changes were in effect in 1988 at least. The law even meant that if you got a job, and then entered a de-facto relationship, the unemployment rebate was to be calculated at the "Married" rate. I didn't believe it when I was told.....

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